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Post by Nemt on Jan 22, 2007 23:12:23 GMT -5
Distinguished Friends and Brothers in Arms of the Imperial Council,
Field Markshall Krulmuk's proposed campaign to crush the squirrel people, has my complete support and I encourage swift action to be taken on behalf of the empire. The continued spectre of tavani autonomy and even independence cannot be afforded any more time. I have seen the looming and base evil of insurrection and open rebellion in Kopixer province and only now after crushing military maneuvering has order begun to return. These are troubled times, and the luxuries of continued diplomacy and euphemistic optimism have long since departed.
Maintaining control of frontier provinces should be a primary function of the Imperial forces, and I assure you all countless silent Uloro share my position.
Regards, Ulor Nemt of Kopixer
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Clabbuk
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Post by Clabbuk on Jan 23, 2007 1:21:37 GMT -5
To the most respected members of the Stavuk Vyloresh,
Wiping out the Tavani people may solve our problems somewhat with anti-Imperial tribes within the empire, but it will only serve to anger the anti-Imperial tribes within and without the empire. These remaining tribes will see the genocide as murder many times over, with no basis other than their ethnicity. Of course, their ethnicity is not the problem, rather, their behaviour. But many people will inevitably see it that way, just because the people to be killed are all part of the same ethnic group. This will increase the level of rebellion of most tribes in the Empire, especially those who are already hostile. But, I do agree that the Tavani people must be dealt with in some way or another. They cannot remain in the Empire if the Empire is to grow and improve according to its potential. Therefore I propose that we give the Tavani people a maximum of two weeks to leave the Empire, and at the end of two weeks, carry out the genocide against any Tavani people who remain in the Empire. This will give the Tavani people a fair choice between emigration and death. If any remain and so have to be killed, it will be their choice. If the Tavani tribe (and any other anti-Imperial tribes) sees that the killing was brought upon the Tavani by choice, they will not have any firm grounds for rebellion. Please consider waiting two weeks as I have described, I'm sure it will fare much better for the Empire than to carry out the genocide without fair warning to the Tavani people.
Sincerely, Clabbuk, Ulor of Vinrat Inuvesh Azh
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Post by Nashlan on Jan 23, 2007 12:09:48 GMT -5
To the wise members of the Stavuk Vyloresh,
Tavani disloyalty is indeed a pressing problem for the Empire. However, I feel that complete genocide against the race would be resemblant of the barbaric practices that tribes such as the Tavani commit, and would serve to stir up trouble amongst the other frontier tribes.
Together, the Tavani plot the downfall of Imperial rule in Salan Zurian, and it is together that they are a threat to the Empire. I agree that an example must be made, but I propose a different one. The dissolution of the Tavani tribe to be precise. Have these people captured, rounded up and then seperated throughout the Empire, or sold as slaves! A lone Tavani will have no more hope of rebelling than a mutt has of learning to speak, and yet, like a mutt, he still has his uses.
Divide them up, disperse them amongst the rest of the Empire as slaves and labourers so that they may have an example made of them while still proving their worth!
Sincerely, Ulor Nashlan of Salan Nassavix.
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Post by Wanderjar on Jan 23, 2007 15:00:36 GMT -5
To All Concerned Ulor,
I, Ulor Wanderjar of the Province of Aatan, hereby decree that any genocidal actions taken by any Ulor, will result in immediate action taken by my Government, including refusal of trade with your province, and possible military action.
Do consider what you are doing. I also gladly invite any of these tribesmen which wish to leave a region which does not want them, to come and resettle in Aatan, where at least they will be recognized for their usefulness.
~Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan
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Post by Kortelan on Jan 23, 2007 18:28:34 GMT -5
To the members of the Stavuk Vyloresh,
I, Kortelen the Ulor of Kajakan Tros, have an idea. Why not appease them? Give them land we do not need to have as their own. That way they are no longer a bother to the empire and they have their own land like they wish. This way both sides win and the Empire looks like it is a kind entity making dealings with tribes outside of the Empire's influence that much more willing to aid and assist us and possibly even that much more eager to join the Empire.
Ulor Kortelen of Kajakan Tros.
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Clabbuk
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Post by Clabbuk on Jan 23, 2007 20:21:57 GMT -5
Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan, I have considered long and well about my decision. I do not wish to make any changes to it, except that I will be sure to spread the word to the Tavani people (if in fact there are any in the south-eastern corner of the empire) that your province will welcome them. I agree that they can still be useful, but I already have more than enough tribesmen as it is from various ethnic groups who are making ruling my province difficult. I do not wish to slaughter them, just be rid of them so that my province can be further on its way to ridding itself of citizens who might rebel against it, because my province appears to be still in its early stages of development, and cannot handle much conflict as of yet. Also, I must note that the conflict in which the Tavani people were nearly wiped out happened in the far north of the empire, and my province is the farthest south, hence the name New Southern Frontier (Salan Vinret Inuvesh Azh). As you can see on the province map, my province (#77) is possibly the farthest one can get from the place where the Tavani people were originally scattered (#19). Therefore I ask you not to take military action against my province, because actions taken in my province towards genocide will have very little (if any) effect on the Tavani people.
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Post by Nemt on Jan 24, 2007 0:48:55 GMT -5
To All Concerned Ulor, I, Ulor Wanderjar of the Province of Aatan, hereby decree that any genocidal actions taken by any Ulor, will result in immediate action taken by my Government, including refusal of trade with your province, and possible military action. Do consider what you are doing. I also gladly invite any of these tribesmen which wish to leave a region which does not want them, to come and resettle in Aatan, where at least they will be recognized for their usefulness. ~Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan, Your threats are as hollow as your leadership and deservedness of your position. Salan Aatan is a small agricultural and hunting province, with an internal economy and no significant extra-provincial trade activity. Additionally, as you well enough should know, you are an Ulor, a civilian, and do not have any military forces under your command beyond the small detachment of guards assigned to you. Do not think because you and the local commander are old friends that he would be foolish enough to take forceful action against the empire. I continue to fully support the genocide of the tavani people, and welcome whatever treasonous and misguided actions you wish to take. You may discontinue "trade" with Salan Kopixer, we, as the rest of the empire save imperial tax collectors, gain no economic benefit from Salan Aatan. You may persuade the provincial commander to go along with an attack on Salan Kopixer, and are welcome to march countless talongo to the shore, and then to persuade imperial naval forces to transport your rebellious faction countless talongo more to the southern plains. You are then free to sail upriver or march countless talongo from the port of Osim to Kopixer. Then, when your men have travelled for an eternity to betray their very empire and start a quarrel none of them would uphold - they are free to be cut down in the sun by the men of the 3rd Kantora Zekresh and the 1st and 3rd Kantoro Kopixer. You are beyond your place attempting to influence imperial actions with empty threats, and were you Ulor of a province of any significance I would truly weep for the empire. -Ulor Nemt of Kopixer, Gurikan 3rd Kantora Zekresh
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Post by Wanderjar on Jan 27, 2007 11:27:55 GMT -5
To All Concerned Ulor, I, Ulor Wanderjar of the Province of Aatan, hereby decree that any genocidal actions taken by any Ulor, will result in immediate action taken by my Government, including refusal of trade with your province, and possible military action. Do consider what you are doing. I also gladly invite any of these tribesmen which wish to leave a region which does not want them, to come and resettle in Aatan, where at least they will be recognized for their usefulness. ~Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan Ulor Wanderjar of Aatan, Your threats are as hollow as your leadership and deservedness of your position. Salan Aatan is a small agricultural and hunting province, with an internal economy and no significant extra-provincial trade activity. Additionally, as you well enough should know, you are an Ulor, a civilian, and do not have any military forces under your command beyond the small detachment of guards assigned to you. Do not think because you and the local commander are old friends that he would be foolish enough to take forceful action against the empire. I continue to fully support the genocide of the tavani people, and welcome whatever treasonous and misguided actions you wish to take. You may discontinue "trade" with Salan Kopixer, we, as the rest of the empire save imperial tax collectors, gain no economic benefit from Salan Aatan. You may persuade the provincial commander to go along with an attack on Salan Kopixer, and are welcome to march countless talongo to the shore, and then to persuade imperial naval forces to transport your rebellious faction countless talongo more to the southern plains. You are then free to sail upriver or march countless talongo from the port of Osim to Kopixer. Then, when your men have travelled for an eternity to betray their very empire and start a quarrel none of them would uphold - they are free to be cut down in the sun by the men of the 3rd Kantora Zekresh and the 1st and 3rd Kantoro Kopixer. You are beyond your place attempting to influence imperial actions with empty threats, and were you Ulor of a province of any significance I would truly weep for the empire. -Ulor Nemt of Kopixer, Gurikan 3rd Kantora Zekresh In reply, I shall merely state that I am glad that you under estimate what a small, but determined band of men can do. One day I shall look forward to slitting your throat on the battlefield. ~Ulor Wanderjar Commander of Forces Aatan
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Esinie
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Post by Esinie on Jan 28, 2007 5:12:50 GMT -5
To the the imperial council I Esinie am displeased of this news of Genocide. You see I am a Trond and the genocide of another indiginous people will make other tribes and people feel that they may be next and I personally being an indiginous person and governer of a frountier provence think that this unsettling news will cause chaos and perhap's rebellion I think it nessicary to oppose it though I am not zekresh nor am I used to there goverment I think that it would be better to let them live and perhaps leave if there ideas of life are to unsettling I think it would reform the empire to be more virtuous if genocide was a thing of the past.
Signed Esinie of Helmarie provence.
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